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Re: 08 GC LIMITED [paule]
by paule on Mon Dec 01 20:22:41 PST 2008
It's interesting to see the difference in incentives in different areas. NH has $3,250 off '09 Grand Cherokees where CO only has $1,000 off and AZ has $1,500. These are on '09's. I also noticed they have significantly different incentives on the '08's in different parts of the country.
Re: Recovery!!! hopefully [62vetteefp]
by kernick on Mon Dec 01 17:38:13 PST 2008
The market will bottom out in the first quarter of next year, Tom Libby, an analyst at J.D. Power and Associates, said in an interview with the newscast Automotive News Today. After that, he said, sales gradually will strengthen. OK, what is this guys track record regarding forecasts. I mean last year did he predict this year right? Because in order to know how many vehicles will be sold next year requires a good understanding of macroeconomics. Is this guy a PhD in economics? Not even the best minds on Wall Street or in Washington have a good handle on what's going to happen next month. The situation we're in economically is far more serious then what we're in now. The quote from the other day is that we're in the 1st inning of the next real estate crisis - commercial real estate. And then we have a trillion $ mess with credit card balances that will be hitting soon. And if we have any sort of terrorist attack that wrecks more havoc with trade. If you want proof of the mess we're in, consider that after all the blood that's been shed in the stock market so far, and all that the Treasyury is doing to prop up the financial system including multiple interest rate cuts, financial stocks fell an average of 17% today.
Re: [62vetteefp]
by kernick on Mon Dec 01 17:26:03 PST 2008
If you google the experts you quote -"Center for Automotive Research funding", you get the following on the 1st page of the search. http://car.osu.edu/drupal/index.php?q=node/46 The director of the Center for Automotive Research has and will be funded by, and I quote from my OSU link "His research has been funded by, among others, General Motors, Ford, DaimlerChrysler, Delphi , Visteon, Dana, ArvinMeritor, Fiat, Honda, Lamborghini, Magneti Marelli, Oshkosh Truck, Cummins, ..." So this is like a drug company hiring a former and possible future consultant to verify their new drug is safe and effective. It's BIASED. You need to go outside the cozy circle of the auto world, to get as far from the $ influence.
Re: GM: lost it's way [Mr_Shiftright]
by kernick on Wed Nov 26 13:38:56 PST 2008
2. Anyone who uses the word "retro" will be fired. "Retro" is another way of saying "I've run out of ideas". Although a Morgan is pretty attractive. But I think retro can be good, especially if it is retro like Ralph Lauren's Ferraris or Bugatti is. 5. I'd retire 90% of the styling departments of all brands and hire Italians. Or at least use Italian leather! Buying a GM product typically has the panache of buying your shoes at Sears. 6. I'd back-burner the Volt for now. It can't save us anyway (niche markets? Not today!) Right. When you're in a fight for survival in the next few months, everything may have to be halted except the essential. I'd stop all R&D, all model redesign, and all plant modernization until I knew I'd still be in business in a few months. Anything that lessens the chances of surviving the next few months should go. Analogy: If your house is on fire, anything you try and rescue and carry, lessens your chances of survival. GM needs to break-even or make a small profit asap; to show the markets, government, and potential buyers that it is going to make it.
Re: Movie still> [texases]
by andys120 on Mon Dec 01 14:58:24 PST 2008
Not a bad guess, it's a 1990.
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by andys120 on Mon Dec 01 13:46:49 PST 2008

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